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I want you to imagine a saltwater fish. The fish can only survive in his natural habitat, which is the ocean. Why? Because the ocean surrounds the fish with everything it needs to live, breathe, and have its being.

The fish is also a dependent creature. Fish swim in schools.

Now consider a different image. Imagine that this fish is removed from the ocean and from its school and is thrown in someone’s backyard. People take turns spraying the fish with a water hose every 15 minutes. They also sprinkle salt on its body.

That’s an apt picture of modern discipleship.

Discipleship has been separated from the Christian’s native habitat (ekklesia) and it’s become a highly individualistic event. An individual discipler “disciples” an individual disciplee to become a better individual disciple.

And we have not so learned Jesus Christ.

Christianity has and always will be a collective, corporate life and pursuit.

The issue, therefore, is not discipleship. The issue is restoring the ekklesia as God intended it to be, for the ekklesia is the Christian’s native habitat. And out of it flows everything else.

– Frank Viola, Reimaging the Church, 7/26/2009, Read the whole article here.

– fritz

>Interpretation of Tongues

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“For to one is given by the Spirit … the interpretation of tongues” – 1st Corinthians 8a, 10e

There would be little need for this gift if the gift of tongues was unintended for public use.

When a message is given in tongues an interpretation is to be provided. In fact, if no one else steps up, the tongues speaker is to ask God to give him or her that interpretation.1

It should be noted this is not the translation but the Interpretation of Tongues. It will not, necessariliary, be word for word and should not be expected as such.

Like any of the other verbal gifts of the Holy Spirit, there will be an urge to express an inner stirring. The whole interpretation may not be given at once and is not required to begin. Speak what is given and quit when there is nothing more to express.

God’s NOT going to waggle your tongue for you – you always have the choice to respond or not. Feel the internal urge, like you have something to say though you may not know what it is, and say what you are given when there is opportunity.

We make it more complicated than it has to be [grin].

– fritz


1 – 1st Corinthians 14:13

“For to one is given by the Spirit … divers kinds of tongues” – 1st Corinthians 13:8a, 10d

Tongues is a hot topic in some churches. Godly people believe those who speak in tongues are of the devil and others, just as godly, believe only those who speak in tongues are saved – both sides saying they believe the Bible.

Tongues is a prophetic utterance in a human or angelic1 language unknown by the speaker and sometimes unknown to the hearers.

Its primary purpose is personal spiritual growth2 but there are two (2) more worth mentioning.

1. The Bible says tongues are a sign to non-believers3 that this group of people is different, and not afraid to be so.   That group may be considered strange or crazy but when everything “normal” fails one often inquires from the unique.

God excels at satisfying those who have found the world’s “normal” ways wanting.

2. There’s also another purpose and here, in combination with the gift of Interpretation of tongues, is its place in church services.4 It is encouraging when the church gathers and experiences an act of God. I have seen it, it’s awesome!

Much of what we do in church is of human origin – our liturgy, our programs, our efforts as we express our love to God. It’s awesome to experience God’s response.

Sure we’ll get it wrong sometimes and use God’s gifts ineffectively but that’s to be expected. A wise pastor will teach, direct in right ways, and encourage his people to step out into God’s gifting.

Paul’s admonition still stands

“Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.” – 1st Corinthians 14:39

– fritz
1 – 1st Corinthians 13:1
2 – 1st Corinthians 14:4
3 – 1st Corinthians 14:22
4 – 1st Corinthians 14:5